I think I may have perfected the skinny pant. I scored the above trouser denim at the thrift store for $4, just about 9-10 months ago. They're fantastic, but I can't quite do the trouser pant. I didn't look fat, but I felt fat when I wore them. So I never wore them. Do you have clothes like that? It doesn't matter how flattering the mirror says they are, they just don't feel right? It took me a while to get around to making them skinny, but once I sat down to do it, the alteration took me a few hours. For my first attempt, I laid my favorite pair of skinnies on top of the denim (similar to these), marked a line and sewed. They were much too tight. From there I decided to figure out the fit of one pant leg (perfection took several tries with the seam-ripper). After I achieved the perfect fit in one leg, I transfered the alteration to the other side using pattern paper. Each side turned out symmetrically and PERFECT! These are more of a cigarette pant, than a skinny pant. They have the perfect amount of give all the way down the pant, but not so much give that it adds bulk to my legs. These pants are my new mom jeans. They look nice, but they feel like pajamas. Victory!